{"id":6196,"date":"2026-04-30T02:13:12","date_gmt":"2026-04-30T02:13:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/?p=6196"},"modified":"2026-05-01T02:37:45","modified_gmt":"2026-05-01T02:37:45","slug":"rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/","title":{"rendered":"Rotation Primitives for Rotating Speaker Orchestration"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">PE, April 2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div id=\"ez-toc-container\" class=\"ez-toc-v2_0_84 counter-hierarchy ez-toc-counter ez-toc-grey ez-toc-container-direction\">\n<p class=\"ez-toc-title\" style=\"cursor:inherit\">Table of Contents<\/p>\n<label for=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a2896c223383\" class=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-label\"><span class=\"\"><span class=\"eztoc-hide\" style=\"display:none;\">Toggle<\/span><span class=\"ez-toc-icon-toggle-span\"><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" class=\"list-377408\" width=\"20px\" height=\"20px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"M6 6H4v2h2V6zm14 0H8v2h12V6zM4 11h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2zM4 16h2v2H4v-2zm16 0H8v2h12v-2z\" fill=\"currentColor\"><\/path><\/svg><svg style=\"fill: #999;color:#999\" class=\"arrow-unsorted-368013\" xmlns=\"http:\/\/www.w3.org\/2000\/svg\" width=\"10px\" height=\"10px\" viewBox=\"0 0 24 24\" version=\"1.2\" baseProfile=\"tiny\"><path d=\"M18.2 9.3l-6.2-6.3-6.2 6.3c-.2.2-.3.4-.3.7s.1.5.3.7c.2.2.4.3.7.3h11c.3 0 .5-.1.7-.3.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7zM5.8 14.7l6.2 6.3 6.2-6.3c.2-.2.3-.5.3-.7s-.1-.5-.3-.7c-.2-.2-.4-.3-.7-.3h-11c-.3 0-.5.1-.7.3-.2.2-.3.5-.3.7s.1.5.3.7z\"\/><\/svg><\/span><\/span><\/label><input type=\"checkbox\"  id=\"ez-toc-cssicon-toggle-item-6a2896c223383\"  aria-label=\"Toggle\" \/><nav><ul class='ez-toc-list ez-toc-list-level-1 ' ><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-1\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Introduction\" >Introduction<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-2\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Key_Components_of_the_Orchestration_Layer\" >Key Components of the Orchestration Layer<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-3\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#node_single_rotatorV1maxpat\" >node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-4\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Presentation_View_node_single_rotatorV1maxpat\" >Presentation View node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-4' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-4'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-5\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Record_Play_Control_embeded_in_node_single_rotatorV1maxpat\" >Record \/ Play Control embeded in node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-6\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Patching_View_node_single_rotatorV1maxpat\" >Patching View node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-7\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Gemini_AI_explanation_of_the_max_patch\" >Gemini AI explanation of the max patch<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-8\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#1_The_Core_Engine_Movement\" >1. The Core Engine: Movement<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-9\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#2_The_%E2%80%9CNodes%E2%80%9D_System\" >2. The &#8220;Nodes&#8221; System<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-10\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#3_Key_Controls_The_UI\" >3. Key Controls (The UI)<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-11\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#4_Data_Recording_Playback\" >4. Data Recording &amp; Playback<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-12\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#5_Automation_Presets\" >5. Automation &amp; Presets<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-13\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Summary_of_Logic_Flow\" >Summary of Logic Flow:<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-14\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#node_rotator_manyV1maxpat\" >node_rotator_manyV1.maxpat<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-4' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-4'><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-4' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-4'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-15\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#iPad_Mira\" >iPad Mira<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-16\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#M4LRotSkpkrMap8amxd_Base\" >M4LRotSkpkrMap8.amxd Base<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-17\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#NodeRotMap8\" >NodeRotMap8<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-18\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Ableton_Device_View\" >Ableton Device View<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-4' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-4'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-19\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Pop_Out_View\" >Pop Out View<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-20\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#File_Manifest\" >File Manifest<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-21\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Other_Dependencies\" >Other Dependencies<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-22\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#To_Do\" >To Do<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-23\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Feature_Enhancement\" >Feature Enhancement<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-4' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-4'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-24\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Presets\" >Presets<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-4'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-25\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Correlation_Control\" >Correlation Control<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-4'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-26\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Mapping_for_DMX\" >Mapping for DMX<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-27\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#rot-spkr-dmx-v5d_Ableton_Set\" >rot-spkr-dmx-v5d Ableton Set<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-2'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-28\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Preset_Storage_and_Playback_experimental_work_in_progress\" >Preset Storage and Playback (experimental work in progress)<\/a><ul class='ez-toc-list-level-3' ><li class='ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-29\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Menu_Selections\" >Menu Selections<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-30\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Client_Window\" >Client Window<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-31\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Storage_Window\" >Storage Window<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-32\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#Sample_Snippet_of_the_Preset_Storage_JSON_File\" >Sample Snippet of the Preset Storage JSON File<\/a><\/li><li class='ez-toc-page-1 ez-toc-heading-level-3'><a class=\"ez-toc-link ez-toc-heading-33\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/#File_Control\" >File Control<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/li><\/ul><\/nav><\/div>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Introduction\"><\/span>Introduction<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<details class=\"wp-block-details is-layout-flow wp-block-details-is-layout-flow\"><summary>Click here for Google Gemini AI Generated Summary<\/summary>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This page documents the development of <strong>Rotation Primitives<\/strong>, a system created by <a target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/rotation-primitives-for-rotating-speaker-orchestration\/\">Philip Edelstein<\/a> for orchestrating rotating loudspeakers within <strong>Ableton Live<\/strong> and <strong>Max MSP<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The project focuses on extending the control of kinetic audio objects, such as triple-rotator speakers, by using specialized software &#8220;nodes&#8221; to manage horizontal positions, rotation rates, and vertical speaker independence.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Key_Components_of_the_Orchestration_Layer\"><\/span>Key Components of the Orchestration Layer<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>NodeRotMap8:<\/strong> A Max for Live (M4L) utility that integrates the rotator controls directly into Ableton, allowing parameters to be mapped to the <strong>DMXIS<\/strong> device for hardware control.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat:<\/strong> A Max patch that acts as a spatial controller. It offers two movement modes:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Standard Rotation:<\/strong> Uses a simple circular path driven by a phasor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Clifford Attractor:<\/strong> Generates complex, chaotic, and organic movement patterns using fractal math.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Proximity Engine:<\/strong> A core node (<code>RotSprk-ProximityCore-v2.amxd<\/code>) that handles the spatial logic. Newer versions are being developed to support multiple instances by using automatically generated instance numbers.<\/p>\n<\/details>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Notes here are intended to provide necessary details to extend work to date for orchestration of Rotating Speakers to better support devices such as the triple rotators supporting horizontal position or rotation rate and 3 independent vertical speakers. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As part of the Rotating Loudspeaker project orchestration layer, I developed an M4L Device that supports basic rotation controls that can be mapped to Ableton variables and the &#8220;Proximity Engine&#8221; node.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Node: to date, the RotSprk-ProximityCore-v2.amxd works as a single instance in an Ableton set due to hardcoded Max send and receive objects.  A new version of this and the underlying subpatches in progress that uses automatically generated instance numbers to allow multiple instances.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"912\" height=\"386\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-37.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6206\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2.362773337660757;width:496px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-37.png 912w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-37-300x127.png 300w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-37-768x325.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 912px) 100vw, 912px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"node_single_rotatorV1maxpat\"><\/span>node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is a work in progress for use in Ableton and Max Patches for controlling sound and kinetic objects such as rotating loudspeakers and associated audio contexts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Google Gemini is used to describe the function of the patch.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Presentation_View_node_single_rotatorV1maxpat\"><\/span>Presentation View node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"979\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-29-1024x979.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6198\" style=\"aspect-ratio:1.0459770114942528;width:610px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-29-1024x979.png 1024w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-29-300x287.png 300w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-29-768x734.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-29.png 1444w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Record_Play_Control_embeded_in_node_single_rotatorV1maxpat\"><\/span>Record \/ Play Control embeded in node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A mechanism is provided to record and playback motion.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A pulldown menu provides selection of:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"166\" height=\"348\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-32.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6201\" style=\"aspect-ratio:0.4769880113151632;width:71px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-32.png 166w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-32-143x300.png 143w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 166px) 100vw, 166px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Stop<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Play<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Loop 0 disables the play loop<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Loop 1 enables the play loop<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Record starts recording the movement<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Read reads a file of the movement<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Write writes a file of the recorded movement<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Patching_View_node_single_rotatorV1maxpat\"><\/span>Patching View node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"741\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-28-1024x741.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6197\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-28-1024x741.png 1024w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-28-300x217.png 300w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-28-768x556.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-28-1536x1112.png 1536w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-28-2048x1482.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Gemini_AI_explanation_of_the_max_patch\"><\/span>Gemini AI explanation of the max patch<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Prompt: explain this max patch (text of patch loaded into the browser)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; Gemini Response &#8211;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This patch, titled <strong><code>node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat<\/code><\/strong>, is a sophisticated spatial or parameter controller designed to move a &#8220;node&#8221; (a data point) in a circular or complex geometric pattern. Based on the file path and objects, it\u2019s part of a &#8220;Pepscillator&#8221; project, likely used for controlling a <strong>Rotary Speaker<\/strong> simulation or a panning effect.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here is the breakdown of how it works:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"1_The_Core_Engine_Movement\"><\/span>1. The Core Engine: Movement<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The patch features two distinct modes of movement, controlled by the <code>obj-32<\/code> toggle (labeled &#8220;Clifford&#8221; in the presentation):<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Standard Rotation (The &#8220;Simple&#8221; Mode):<\/strong> It uses a <code>phasor~<\/code> (an audio-rate ramp) converted to control data via <code>snapshot~<\/code>. This drives a <code>cos<\/code> and <code>sin<\/code> relationship to create perfect circular movement for a node.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Clifford Attractor Mode:<\/strong> When toggled, the data flow shifts to a <code>bpatcher<\/code> called <code>clifford-worker<\/code>. This uses a mathematical <strong>Clifford Attractor<\/strong> (a type of chaotic fractal) to generate more organic, non-repeating, and complex movement patterns rather than simple circles.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"2_The_%E2%80%9CNodes%E2%80%9D_System\"><\/span>2. The &#8220;Nodes&#8221; System<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The patch uses two <code>nodes<\/code> objects (<code>obj-48<\/code> and <code>obj-1<\/code>). In Max, <code>nodes<\/code> is a UI object used to map 2D space.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>It appears the patch takes the mathematical output (the circle or the attractor) and uses it to &#8220;drive&#8221; the position of <strong>Node 1<\/strong>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>This position is then sent out via <code>send nodectl<\/code>, likely to an external audio processing patch that handles the actual panning or filtering of the audio.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"3_Key_Controls_The_UI\"><\/span>3. Key Controls (The UI)<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You have several parameters that shape the movement:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Rate (<code>obj-38<\/code>):<\/strong> Controls how fast the rotation or the attractor updates. It scales between 0.002 and 0.5.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Scale (<code>obj-42<\/code>):<\/strong> Controls the &#8220;width&#8221; or &#8220;depth&#8221; of the movement\u2014essentially how large the circle or pattern is.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Phase (<code>obj-16<\/code>):<\/strong> Offsets the starting point of the rotation.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Node Number (<code>obj-70<\/code>):<\/strong> Allows you to specify which node (if there were multiple) is being commanded.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"4_Data_Recording_Playback\"><\/span>4. Data Recording &amp; Playback<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The bottom-right section (objects like <code>mtr 10<\/code>, <code>umenu<\/code>, and <code>obj-75<\/code>) is a <strong>multi-track recorder<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>The <code>mtr<\/code> object allows you to <strong>record<\/strong> the movement of the nodes and <strong>play it back<\/strong>.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The menu contains standard transport commands: <code>play<\/code>, <code>stop<\/code>, <code>record<\/code>, <code>loop<\/code>, and <code>write<\/code> (to save the movement data to a file).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"5_Automation_Presets\"><\/span>5. Automation &amp; Presets<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong><code>thispatcher<\/code> &amp; <code>zoom_ctl<\/code>:<\/strong> These are utility objects used to manage the window size and UI scaling, making it act more like a professional plugin interface.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Message Boxes (<code>obj-6<\/code> and <code>obj-40<\/code>):<\/strong> These contain &#8220;presets&#8221; for the Clifford Attractor, instantly setting the $a, b, c, d$ variables to specific values to generate different chaotic shapes.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Summary_of_Logic_Flow\"><\/span>Summary of Logic Flow:<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ol start=\"1\" class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><strong>Clock:<\/strong> A <code>metro<\/code> or <code>phasor~<\/code> provides the timing.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Generator:<\/strong> Either a Sine\/Cosine pair or a Javascript\/Clifford math script generates X\/Y coordinates.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Mapping:<\/strong> Those coordinates are scaled and sent to the <code>nodes<\/code> object.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Output:<\/strong> The final X\/Y position is broadcast via <code>s nodectl<\/code> to affect your sound.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><strong>Storage:<\/strong> The <code>mtr<\/code> captures these movements if you want to repeat a specific performance.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Is there a specific part of the math (like the <code>expr<\/code> objects) or the recording logic you&#8217;d like me to dive deeper into?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"node_rotator_manyV1maxpat\"><\/span>node_rotator_manyV1.maxpat<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is a bundle of 4 node_rotator_singleV1.maxpat with the addition of a Mira iPad interface. The &#8220;Rotator Many&#8221; panel surfaces as a tab in Mira on an iPad and integrates into Ableton via <strong>NodeRotMap8.maxpat<\/strong> as adapted from  <strong>M4LRotSkpkrMap8.amxd<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"698\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-30-698x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6199\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-30-698x1024.png 698w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-30-204x300.png 204w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-30-768x1127.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-30-1046x1536.png 1046w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-30-1395x2048.png 1395w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-30.png 1530w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 698px) 100vw, 698px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"iPad_Mira\"><\/span>iPad Mira<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">here is a screen snapshot of the the Rotator Many tab from an iPad.  (needs further explanation)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"768\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Image-1024x768.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6208\" style=\"width:687px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Image-1024x768.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Image-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Image-768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Image-1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Image-960x720.jpg 960w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/Image.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"M4LRotSkpkrMap8amxd_Base\"><\/span>M4LRotSkpkrMap8.amxd Base<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This M4L utility that was developed to Map the Proximity Engine to the DMXIS Device was used as basis for integration of the node_rotator_manyV1.maxpat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"520\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-33-1024x520.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6202\" style=\"width:545px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-33-1024x520.png 1024w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-33-300x152.png 300w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-33-768x390.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-33.png 1158w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"NodeRotMap8\"><\/span>NodeRotMap8<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As part of the RotSkpkrMap8.amxd core engine for Rotating Speaker Pepscillator, this utility M4L NodeRotMap8.amxd was developed that integrates the <strong>node_rotator_manyV1.maxpat<\/strong> into Ableton extending the earlier M4LRotSkpkrMap8.amxd Base.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The M4LRotSpkrMap8.amxd was used as seed for integrating the node_multi_rotatorV1.maxpat into Ableton via the NodeRotMap8.amxd Ableton M4L device.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Ableton_Device_View\"><\/span>Ableton Device View<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"968\" height=\"392\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-35.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6204\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2.4694708276797828;width:553px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-35.png 968w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-35-300x121.png 300w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-35-768x311.png 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 968px) 100vw, 968px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Pop_Out_View\"><\/span>Pop Out View<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"963\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-34-1024x963.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6203\" style=\"aspect-ratio:1.0633558517436552;width:685px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-34-1024x963.png 1024w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-34-300x282.png 300w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-34-768x722.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-34-1536x1444.png 1536w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-34.png 1644w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"File_Manifest\"><\/span>File Manifest<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Screen Snapshot from File List<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"95\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-36-1024x95.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6205\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-36-1024x95.png 1024w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-36-300x28.png 300w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-36-768x71.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-36-1536x142.png 1536w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-36-2048x189.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Copy and Paste as Text<\/p>\n\n\n\n<pre class=\"wp-block-code\"><code>Externals and subpatcher files for NodeRotMap8:\nAbstraction    M4L.MapButtonMultiSingle.maxpat      M4-T7:\/Users\/philed\/Documents\/Max 9\/Max for Live Devices\/NodeRotMap8 Project\/patchers\/M4L.MapButtonMultiSingle.maxpat\nAbstraction    clifford-worker_2025-10-17.maxpat    M4-T7:\/Users\/philed\/CLIFFORD\/clifford-worker_2025-10-17.maxpat\nAbstraction    node_rotator_manyV1.maxpat           M4-T7:\/Users\/philed\/Desktop\/PepscillatorRotSpkr Project\/Presets\/Audio Effects\/Max Audio Effect\/node_rotator_manyV1.maxpat\nAbstraction    node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat         M4-T7:\/Users\/philed\/Desktop\/PepscillatorRotSpkr Project\/Presets\/Audio Effects\/Max Audio Effect\/node_single_rotatorV1.maxpat\nAbstraction    show_hide_worker.maxpat              M4-T7:\/Users\/philed\/Desktop\/MAX8\/MAXPAT\/show_hide_worker.maxpat\nAbstraction    window_zoom.maxpat                   M4-T7:\/Users\/philed\/Desktop\/MAX8\/MAXPAT\/window_zoom.maxpat\nAbstraction    zoom_ctl.maxpat                      M4-T7:\/Users\/philed\/Desktop\/MAX8\/MAXPAT\/zoom_ctl.maxpat<\/code><\/pre>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Other_Dependencies\"><\/span>Other Dependencies<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Install the Mira Package in MAX from the Max Package Manager.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Install Mira iPad App on iPad from App Store.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"To_Do\"><\/span>To Do<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Further testing <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Usability and  UI enhancements to NodRotMap8 and documentation<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Export files to Zip File<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Installation Instructions and guidance<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Feature_Enhancement\"><\/span>Feature Enhancement<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Presets\"><\/span>Presets<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In addition to the extent controls, consider using the MAX &#8220;pattr&#8221; objects to store and retrieve presets that can be selected via a Midi control surface (e.g. Novation XL, Akai Mini), Mira or other OSC or Midi interfaces.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This would support both jumps between presets or cross fade between any two.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<details class=\"wp-block-details is-layout-flow wp-block-details-is-layout-flow\"><summary>Click here for detail<\/summary>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I have a MAX abstraction that wraps an MAX abstraction supporting: store and select preset, cross fade, auto-sequence, file save and restore. (add documentation here)<\/p>\n<\/details>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Correlation_Control\"><\/span>Correlation Control<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Link chain by phase.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Mapping_for_DMX\"><\/span>Mapping for DMX<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">NodeRotMap8 is coupled to the RotSprk-ProximityCore-V2 &#8220;node&#8221; instance via Max &#8220;send nodectl&#8221; message.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"110\" height=\"90\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-38.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6207\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Need to verify that the Map instance in NodeRotMap8 are the right range to the DMXIS Device.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"rot-spkr-dmx-v5d_Ableton_Set\"><\/span>rot-spkr-dmx-v5d Ableton Set<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ableton Set with example of the NodeRotMap8.amxd <\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"479\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-39-1024x479.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6210\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-39-1024x479.png 1024w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-39-300x140.png 300w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-39-768x359.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-39-1536x718.png 1536w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-39-2048x958.png 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Preset_Storage_and_Playback_experimental_work_in_progress\"><\/span>Preset Storage and Playback (experimental work in progress)<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Max provides a robust set of control objects for saving, selecting and manipulating presets.  As of April 30, a prototype is presented here combining the <strong>generic_patch_state.maxpat custom<\/strong> &#8220;pattr&#8221; control with the &#8220;<strong>node_rotator_manyV1.maxpat<\/strong>&#8220;. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These initial notes are a review of a possible full implementation for Rotating Loudspeaker orchestration.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Next steps:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>enable all relevant objects (for example include the offset and master node). There are some pre-existing enabled parameters shown as examples.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>consider interactions with the node_rotatorV1 menu (stop, play. loop 0, loop 1) <\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>identify reasonable means to control from a Midi Control Surface (for example punch between presets, set From-&gt;To and fader for interpolation<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>integrate into an amxd for using within Ableton.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Notes here showing work in progress using the &#8220;pattr&#8221; system for node_rotator_manyV1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A previous MAX object &#8220;generic_patch_state&#8221; runs in a bpatcher taking for arguments the name of the target patcher for preset automation.  The MAX &#8220;autopattr&#8221; object was added in the target (node_rotator_manyV1).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A new MAX object &#8221; pattr_note_rotator_manyV1.maxpat&#8221; was created as a prototype &#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"896\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-41-1024x896.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6222\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-41-1024x896.png 1024w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-41-300x263.png 300w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-41-768x672.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-41-1536x1344.png 1536w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-41.png 1904w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A Show\/Hide switch selects between a simple &#8220;recall&#8221; panel with a set of radio buttons that fetches presets 1-9 (see Storage Window)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"376\" height=\"558\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-51.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6232\" style=\"aspect-ratio:0.6738259919912633;width:180px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-51.png 376w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-51-202x300.png 202w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 376px) 100vw, 376px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Show\/Hide button reveals additional controls &#8230; (need work on colors for improved legibility).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The added control are for:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li> cross fading (interpolating) between Recall presto to the To target<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>storing the presets (select storage row and press &#8220;set store&#8221;<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>the &#8220;read&#8221; and &#8220;write&#8221; is for labels shown in the base view. (stored in a separate text file for example pattr-labels.txt)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<pre class=\"wp-block-code\"><code>#X set 0 1 Preset 1;\n#X set 0 2 Preset 2;\n#X set 0 3 My magic numbers;\n#X set 0 4 another preset;<\/code><\/pre>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"390\" height=\"702\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-43.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6224\" style=\"aspect-ratio:0.5555679212945445;width:173px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-43.png 390w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-43-167x300.png 167w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 390px) 100vw, 390px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Menu_Selections\"><\/span>Menu Selections<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"246\" height=\"294\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-47.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6228\" style=\"aspect-ratio:0.8367260164762158;width:124px;height:auto\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-table\"><table class=\"has-fixed-layout\"><tbody><tr><td><strong>Selection<\/strong><\/td><td><strong>Function<\/strong><\/td><\/tr><tr><td>clientwindow<\/td><td>open Client Window showing current setting<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>storagewindow<\/td><td>open Storage Window showing value of presets<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>readagain<\/td><td>re-read the current preset file<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>writeagain<\/td><td>re-write the current preset file<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>read<\/td><td>read a preset file<\/td><\/tr><tr><td>write<\/td><td>write a preset file<\/td><\/tr><\/tbody><\/table><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Client_Window\"><\/span>Client Window<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"803\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-45-803x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6226\" style=\"aspect-ratio:0.7841763942931258;width:576px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-45-803x1024.png 803w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-45-235x300.png 235w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-45-768x980.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-45.png 994w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 803px) 100vw, 803px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Storage_Window\"><\/span>Storage Window<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"860\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-46-860x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6227\" style=\"aspect-ratio:0.8394279845636748;width:599px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-46-860x1024.png 860w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-46-252x300.png 252w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-46-768x915.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-46.png 1056w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 860px) 100vw, 860px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cross Fade<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">one of the build in capabilities is crossfading  between two presets. This slider (needs a lable).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"392\" height=\"80\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-48.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6229\" style=\"aspect-ratio:4.900761867552256;width:216px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-48.png 392w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-48-300x61.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 392px) 100vw, 392px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">allows moving interpolates between two presets. For example&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"703\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-49-1024x703.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6230\" style=\"aspect-ratio:1.4564378087961338;width:498px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-49-1024x703.png 1024w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-49-300x206.png 300w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-49-768x527.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-49.png 1404w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"Sample_Snippet_of_the_Preset_Storage_JSON_File\"><\/span>Sample Snippet of the Preset Storage JSON File<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is written and read by the patch and is not typically hand editted. Contains all the values for the storage presets &#8220;slots&#8221;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"983\" height=\"1024\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-52-983x1024.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6235\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-52-983x1024.png 983w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-52-288x300.png 288w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-52-768x800.png 768w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-52-1474x1536.png 1474w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-52.png 1582w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 983px) 100vw, 983px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><span class=\"ez-toc-section\" id=\"File_Control\"><\/span>File Control<span class=\"ez-toc-section-end\"><\/span><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">See MAX documentation<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"718\" height=\"270\" src=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-50.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6231\" style=\"aspect-ratio:2.6593552867642805;width:306px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-50.png 718w, https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/04\/image-50-300x113.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 718px) 100vw, 718px\" \/><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>PE, April 2026 Introduction Notes here are intended to provide necessary details to extend work to date for orchestration of Rotating Speakers to better support [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"h5ap_radio_sources":[],"footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[81,95],"class_list":["post-6196","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-technical","tag-ableton","tag-maxpat"],"post_type":"post","author_name":"Philip Edelstein","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6196","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=6196"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6196\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":6236,"href":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6196\/revisions\/6236"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=6196"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=6196"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/composers-inside-electronics.net\/cie-wp20\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=6196"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}